Author Topic: Seedy Toe advice please  (Read 2906 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline linsum49

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Seedy Toe advice please
« on: July 29, 2013, 11:55:31 AM »

My young horse had a crack in the front of his hoof and I really struggled to get rid of it when we had all the wet weather.
I have dug into it to clear out the black debris, but it has now turned into seedy toe, with the crack about 1" long.
I clean it out, spray it with silvoid , allow to dry and bung the hole up with cotton wool dipped in a mild iodine solution, plus generously rasp the toe back to try and alleviate further cracking.
Unfortunately I am getting nowhere.
Can anyone give me any advice. ie.. should I rasp the front wall right back to expose the hole or is there anything topical  that will stop further deterioration.
thanks,
Linda

Offline Casey76

  • Joined-March
  • Expired Membership
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3443
  • Cobs can (try...)
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 12:12:01 PM »
Do you have a farrier or other hoof care specialist you can chat to?

Personally I wouldn't use iodine, as it is quite harsh, and actually promote the growth of the bugs you are trying to get rid of.

I'm not sure where you are, but if you can get hold of Red Horse products, I would spray the crack with sole cleanse then pack it with either Arti Mud or Hoof Stuff (depending on how deep/open the crack is - there is a lot of information on when to use Arti Mud and Hoof Stuff on their website)

I couldn't tell you how far to rasp the hoof wall back - you really need a HCP input there - sorry  :(

Good luck though :)

Offline Claire

  • Joined-January
  • Expired Membership
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7933
    • http://myfifthhorse.blogspot.com/
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 10:22:12 PM »
i thought of red horse sole cleanse as well..
equine podiatry supplies will sell you all their range, postage very reasonable!

Offline rvialls

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2012
    • My website
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 11:20:55 PM »
Iodine, even in fairly mild solutions, tends to damage healthy horn. Damaged horn provides a substrate for infection.

I would suggest removing any really lose material with a hoof pick and then packing it with Red Horse Hoof Stuff. The kind of seedy toe you describe with associated toe crack often represents damaged horn that goes right from the ground to the coronary band. As that damaged horn grows down, the rot travels up the column of damaged horn. As a result they can be frustrating to treat as you're always fighting rot that wants to travel upwards. The good news is that new healthy horn will slowly grow down and replace the damaged stuff such that the limit to how high the rot can travel gradually moves downwards. By the time a whole hoof has grown down, the problem typically goes away (unless the thing that caused it in the first place recurs - and that's typically either LGL or an abscess). In the meantime, the Hoof Stuff approach tends to limit the ability of the rot to travel upwards and so prevents further problems from occuring.

Hope that helps.

Offline whisper's mum

  • EE-Site Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 15992
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 10:07:17 AM »
What Richard has explained is exactly how it is with Spirit and exactly how my trimmer, Vicki,  is treating it.   :nod: You taught her well, Richard.  ;)
Helen, Worcestershire, England

On white horses, snowy white horses, let me ride away

How about a rescue pet? :-)

Offline linsum49

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 04:29:18 PM »


Thanks.. it seems like a big vote for red Horse Hoof Stuff!
Just ordered some and a soaking boot, going to soak in Mliton and drythoroughly before I apply the Hoof Stuff.
I have rasped the crack back and formed a V which should now allow air in and bunged up with cotton wool temporary.
Should I clean the hole out regularly and re apply the Hoof Stuff, or is it best left once I have thoroughly cleaned it?
Thanks for all the good advice..,watch this space.

Offline rvialls

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2012
    • My website
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 02:15:31 PM »
If the Hoof Stuff will remain in place (i.e. the hole is deep enough) I can usually get away with replacing very 4-6 weeks, but in an ideal world I'd replace it weekly.

Offline linsum49

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 01:21:43 PM »

Thank you Richard,I will endeavour to re- apply weekly.

Offline linsum49

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 08:14:50 PM »


Seedy toe now grown out,thanks for the advice on ' hoof stuff'.Managed to keep it in place, after weekly cleaning out and re applying.

Offline thecatsmother

  • Joined-January
  • EE Society Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1708
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 08:41:10 PM »
That's really good to hear  :db:
Lesha, nr Exeter, Devon UK

Chocky, Star, Port, & Hal (all RIP), Arai, Augusta, Ash, Foggy, Daisy Doglet & Finnegan

Offline SueC

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2836
Re: Seedy Toe advice please
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 10:23:58 PM »
Good news!  Thanks for the update.  :db: