Hey, look at this! Historic footage from 1932 olympics

[baggywrinkle]

From HFL-

Just Say YES! Taine and Lesage 1932 Olympics

and also this! Note Schaukel and ?square? arena with no letters. Apparently the test was a 16min demonstration of paces and movements....I think you can read it  in an appendix in Niggli's book
lesage et taine jo 1932 dressage

hope these work!

ps.......I think we need to remember viewing these that these horses were military.....and their training and work were more akin to todays' event horses (still called 'military' on the continent)

[Mandeigh]

WOW!   can you imagine competing in front of a crowd that size

What a fantastic piece of footage, 1932! Incredible to think that footage like that exists.  Thanks for posting.

[mandy]

Thanks for posting, loved watching them 

[treez]

Really enjoyed watching those! Amazing footage from 1932, and the horses were trained for the military!

[ukica]

beautiful piece of film and music 

[baggywrinkle]

And the Cadre Noir are still training the cavalry type horse, even to do the airs with gallic panache! Not clockwork robot perfect, sometimes show a mind of their own, but personally I LIKE that in a horse! Selle Francaise are just my kind of horse (what are they..TB x Arab x Normandy Trotter x???)...anyhow, oh and I spent a glorious week the other year at Saumur, late September for the CDI**. We'd booked a Performance,earl in the week (not too many of them thru the year)  and went every day for free thu'out the competition. Even the Gala Evening was free, and such a treat!
There were uniformed competitors at the CDI**, not just the CD but also the Guarde National(sp?). Amongst the few competitors to have heels rather than toes down, to sit quietly, to allow the horses some head movement....and they were 'not rewarded'. A lovely week of horses, chateaux, gardens, hills, rivers, food and wine. Thoroughly recommended holiday...we stayed in a mini chateau up river at Beaumont(?) run by an irish couple who cooked fresh soda bread for brekkie. YUM!
This wonderful slideshow of the CD at some grand performance somewhere brings it all back!
http://www.touscrins.com/keyword/le%20cadre%20noir%20de%20saumur#744718516_VQoqC
press 'slideshow' far right

[Imperidor]

BW - thank you SO much for posting that - just inspiring - was anyone else in tears, or just me???  !!!

WOW, WOW and WOW again - just amazing.

Thankyou

Martina   

[Heather]

Hi Heather,

I hadnt realised that the footage of Taine and Lesage was on youtube these days. Nadja posted it on HFL a couple of years ago. Very, very different to the dressage of today.

EE member, Mandy pointed me to a debate on British Dressage forum a couple of days ago, with one of our GP riders being pretty scathing of Nuno Oliveira. How attitudes do change. I sent the link to my former trainer, Dr Margaret Cox, and I am hoping she is going to come back with a typically erudite response, which if so, I will ask if I may post here!

Heather

[issywizz]

I thought the thread was very funny. 
You have to admit NO does look like he could be pi**ed in that clip. 

[ukica]

You have to admit NO does look like he could be pi**ed in that clip. 

 

[Mossy]

That is lovely, and they are horses, not robots!

[cirocco]

how many can do, or would attempt to do a simple rein back.

Lovely to see the zig zag too.  Not many people bother to teach or attempt to teach zig zag to horses we do it as a loosening up exercise..

[Mossy]

It is doing "simple" well which is the mark of true master of the art. How many chefs can make a good omelette?

[keith.bartlam.3]

I was in Saumur at August presentation on 28th August 2014. I was not impressed by how the horses were so over bent for the warm up AND the presentation. As I speak French,  I collared Jean Franc Giraud one of the older Riders there and former colleague of Phillipe Karl. I expressed my disappointment. He agreed with me and said that now the Cadre Noir are competing in Dressage, they had to ride in the same way as modern competition riders!!!How shocking is that!!!

To prove that point, take a look at the  video footage I took. Ramener Outre?? I dont think so!! RO should only be ridden for "a moment in time" to quote one of the Old Master (I dont remember who)