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« on: October 29, 2011, 09:54:17 AM »

As I can't ride but she isn't on box rest I decided that Liv needs her brain stimulating as she is turning into a right pain in the backside with no work!!! rolleyes

So I got the clicker out a couple of nights ago and she targeted the whip, totally hadn't forgoten, then we targeted the clippers as she is terrified of them and now, trying to teach her to stand on a bag (didn't have a mat) I have inadvertantly taught her to kill it Embarrassed doh laugh Picture oooo, blue bag = treats. pounce kill, how clever am I mum! laugh

So some ideas please, baring in mind I need her to be braver and I would like to teach her to relax and focus on me in stressful scarey situations.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 10:10:33 AM »

Take a look at Hannah Dawson's website : hannahdawsonequine.co.uk. She does excellent clicker training and I belive she is doing it on line now.
I have been to her clicker day trainings and she is very good. She will also be at Your Horse Live this year.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 06:30:04 PM »

Have you taught her head lowering?  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2011, 03:30:04 PM »

Another vote for Hannah Dawson thumbs - she is fab.  I think her on-line lessons are being launched next weekend
at Your Horse Live. 
In the meantime I would train 'playing a bicycle horn' just because it's a laugh.  I got mine for about £2 from Asda
I taped a sponge over the bits you attach it to the bike with so it wouldn't hurt his mouth.  I just threw it on the floor
in his field - he was loose and I thought he would just run a mile ( he is 100% scardy cat ) but he thought it was great.
I click for making lots of noise whistle

The other thing that is easy and fun is playing with a ball we have two, a small soft one that he touches with his nose
and/or picks up.  I want to get him to throw it but that's another day!  We also have a big colourful one that he can kick as
well; he really likes that and I use it to get him to go near the 'horse eating hedge'  rolleyes in the arena!

Have fun Cheesy 
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 11:51:19 PM »

How about first really building up the target training.  I use an old broom handle with an impaled tennis ball at the end of it.  First I get the horse to follow it, with its head, and then to start moving to be able to touch it by oving the target away.  Then I tie it to something and get to horse to go away from the treat (i.e. me) to the target. Slowly build up the distance.  Then you can build up the time the horse stays at the target which also helps with emotional control.

When they are really comfortable with the target I introduce the milk bottles!  (This is something I watched Shawna Karrash do on a video clip to promote her new despooking course) Get a few plastic milk bottles, you can use 1 litre sized ones, and tie them together with string loosely so that when you shake them they make a noise.  Introduce them slowly and gently to the horse and get said beast to touch the target as you do.  Gradually build up how much you shake them and therefore how much noise you make.  Then you can start moving them around and towards the horse more.  Do it on both sides.  And do not do what I did the other evening which was to be to ambitious and to too suddenly make them appear on Osian's other side by passing them over his withers.  My normally calm cob thought he would like to take off except we were in the stable. Shocked  But all was well and a lesson learnt.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 07:16:56 PM »

Oooo some fab ideas, thank you. thumbs

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 08:12:23 AM »

Why don't you set up a 'handy pony' type course which can include anything you can think of - feed sacks tied to jump wings, tarps, dustbins, umbrellas etc.  Although I have to say I did this with Livvi when she was young and she was the bravest out of all of them  laugh - just goes to show how brave they can be at home compared with out in the big wide world!!  rolleyes
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 11:50:44 AM »


So some ideas please, baring in mind I need her to be braver and I would like to teach her to relax and focus on me in stressful scarey situations.

One thing I do with my guys is play that "Look at That" game. It's from the dog trainer who wrote 'Control Unleashed'.

You put something scary looking off at a distance...umbrella, plastic blowy thing, or anything odd that she might look at and worry about.

Then you lead her just close enough so she notices it and as soon as she looks at it you click and say "WHAT'S THAT! You don't ask her to target it or get close because this game is not about that. There are many situations out in the real world where we see something odd and frightening but we either physically can't or we just don't want to get close to it. So we want them just to look, calm down, and move on.

After you've done it a few times you can start saying "What's that" BEFORE she sees it...and then position her so she can see it if she doesn't see it on her own. What we want to teach them is there is something out there that needs to be looked at and if they look at it, good things will happen. They don't need to go up to it...just look at it and they will be given a treat. You want to start with something that is not terrifying..but just interesting enough so she looks at it.

It doesn't  matter if they are still scared! Click and treat anyway. You are not clicking for emotion (scared), you are clicking for looking (behaviour). After a while, the 'scared' emotion will change to a positive emotion -  'oooh goodie, this means the chance to earn reinforcement'.

There will always be new things to look at and wonder/worry about but what we can teach them is it's ok to look but after looking you can calm down and have yourself a treat.

So...scary thing = treats! If we can teach them that, then it helps calm them faster and put their focus back on us.

As for other stuff...as well as head down (actually MORE than head down) I like to teach them to bring their head around and touch their bellies. Like a carrot stretch but they do it without the carrot and you just click and then treat them with their head back out the front. You can build duration so they get a  nice stretch. Of course build it incrementally...c/t for one inch to the left, two inches to the left etc....you can use the target for this but you don't need to.

Have fun!!

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »

I really like the "what's that' Lyndsey.  Another useful thing to add to the repertoire.

Thanks

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 01:47:09 PM »

That's a good idea Lyndsey.  We'll have a go at that one - thanks thumbs
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