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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2011, 10:57:16 PM »

Thats something Ive wondered about actually with pics.
If the pelvis is supposed to move with the horses back and the back is lifting on one side as it will be especially in the SI where the inside hind comes further under, then would that mean that the correct position *was* as above with one hip slightly higher?

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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2011, 07:44:19 AM »

 thumbs lovely Lesha!

Janet you'll tweak that easily  thumbs I often use a little knee aid to shift the shoulder so that I don't start collapsing, just use it and then relax it straight back.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2011, 08:56:23 PM »

Thanks Trudi, will try that  thumbs
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2011, 02:07:57 PM »

In shoulder in, the inside leg should be ON the girth (or where the girth would be, if you are riding without one, lol!).  So from a normal leg position, inside leg moves an inch or two forward for SI.  Outside leg will naturally shift back a little.  Shoulders turn in towards the centre of the school, eyes stay looking down the track.  Eyes do not look down at horse's mane, mane is not about to change colour at short notice therefore there is no need to watch it....   laugh

I didn't realise just how far forward the inside leg needs to be until Francois got cross with me one day for doing it wrong, made me stand in the middle of the school whilst he told a tale about how James Fillis used to shred girths with his spur, because the spur was acting dead on the girth.  Apparently there is a reflex point directly under the girth which when pressure is applied to it, causes a bend in the horse's body.  So this is how you get inside bend in SI.  Moving the inside leg back is just a leg yield really, regardless of whether the horse's body appears correct.  I have ridden horses who appear to do a nice SI, but they only do it from leg yield aids, not correct SI aids!  Very confusing.  If ever I can't get SI on a horse who can supposedly do it, I ask the rider what their normal aids are, and they invariably move the inside leg back.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2011, 03:12:49 PM »

Agree absolutely with Francois, Jenny! And yes, a lot of riders are shocked when I move their inside leg that far forwards. Have castigated myself in the book revision for inside leg not being sufficiently far forwards for my liking! whistle Embarrassed
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2011, 03:57:23 PM »

I think its fairly obvious for SI but its hard to have the inside leg forward enough in travers for some reason , likely to do with pretzel tendencies  Embarrassed
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2011, 10:35:45 AM »

Really?  Isn't it strange how we all struggle with different things, it's very interesting really.  Travers/renvers are always ok for me but my positioning in HP was my bete noir for a while.  Still is, probably!  Although why is that, when HP is really just travers on the diagonal, my brain over complicates it I think!
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