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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2011, 06:39:04 PM »

 Wow! Thank you so much for taking the time to post this!! A trapped nerve!!! That certainly fits the symptoms with Ruby. I did have one young vet who is a horse person here for spring shots and I mentioned it to her but not seriously because I had completely given up on any vets opinion (or chiropractor! - his chiro thought he moved 'pretty' and never saw the drop). Anyhoo this young woman saw right away that he wasn't moving 'right' and suggested a trapped nerve in his neck...?? Said maybe a neck xray would reveal it. But if he did have that, he would need surgery and the outcome was poor. There is such a thing as long neck syndrome and Ruby has the longest neck in the world!!

Is there any chance you have any conformation shots of Willi? I'd be particularly interested to see the shape of neck and also the hind end and fetlocks.

Ruby seems to be developing a frightening symptom of 'coon foot' behind. His pastern angles are slopey and don't match his hoof wall. So it looks like his fetlocks are slightly collapsed all the time. I try desperately to keep his toe short behind to not exacerbate the problem but it still is happening.
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2011, 10:12:39 PM »

Lyndsey, you perhaps wont need to go down the op route, not for a trapped nerve. Its more likely a good physio would manage to exercise it out.

The exercises Fiona gave me for willi were good,and interesting to see how he used himself when I was doing them. This is why Ive said go find fiona, Everyone in racing seems to know of her, she's quite famous these days.

exercise one, was to stand behind tied up horse, hold tail and take your weight to one side slowly, hold for a count of ten then release. You can see the horses back pulling opposite to the way your pulling. I did this ten times x three times a day.

Exercise two was to hold the tail and pull slowly back so that the horse pulls forward against the pressure of your pull. this was for a count of ten, x three times a day. She came back in about two weeks, then again in 4 weeks. She was pretty pleased with the end result, and so was I, he did have the same problem, but never again as bad..

She explained that sometimes a big foal will get nerve damage as it is being born, she also saw the same sort of problem when a horse in racing  falls over a fence, a rotational fall.

I'll go look through my pictures, see if there is anything to show you, He had a really great neck, well muscled and set on correctly, his rear end was also good, but his pasterns on his hinds were slightly upright.
Driven he used himself well, as he did in his ridden work.although he was always prone to dropping a shoulder to get me off.
Looking back I think that he was always struggling when it came to canter, he would never canter correctly, not really, although in a dressage test he was hardly ever marked down?.

Not perhaps what you wanted, but it shows that he had a good outline, was well muscled and fit.
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2011, 10:35:23 PM »

Here we go.

Fiona Johnson 07973 431637
Or try the re hab centre Kendle [not settle]

It seems she's hard to get hold of but worth a try

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011, 01:54:22 PM »


exercise one, was to stand behind tied up horse, hold tail and take your weight to one side slowly, hold for a count of ten then release. You can see the horses back pulling opposite to the way your pulling. I did this ten times x three times a day.

Exercise two was to hold the tail and pull slowly back so that the horse pulls forward against the pressure of your pull. this was for a count of ten, x three times a day. She came back in about two weeks, then again in 4 weeks. She was pretty pleased with the end result, and so was I, he did have the same problem, but never again as bad..

She explained that sometimes a big foal will get nerve damage as it is being born, she also saw the same sort of problem when a horse in racing  falls over a fence, a rotational fall.

I'll go look through my pictures, see if there is anything to show you, He had a really great neck, well muscled and set on correctly, his rear end was also good, but his pasterns on his hinds were slightly upright.


Great thanks for this! I will start the tail stuff right away. You've reminded me of another symptom that I just noticed this spring has gone away (which gives me hope he's getting better!). He had a really limp tail when you picked it up! He could lift it to poop etc but you know how there is this normal amount of tension when you pick up a horse's tail (driving folks have more experience with this probably)...??...well Ruby's tail just flopped in my hand. It was awful and I knew it was not right but again the vets thought I was nuts.

Also Ruby's dam was 14  hands and his sire was 16.1 and he was 3 weeks late and he was so huge compared to the mare when he was born we had to milk the dam cause he couldn't bend down to find the nipple. So...could have had trouble those last couple of weeks cramped in the mare!!!??

Yes I agree your boy looks really nicely developed!! And interesting about the upright pasterns. I know that is stronger to have them that way although some say that then the joints get a little more concussion...?? But I'd take that any day over the sinky pasterns that Ruby has. I'm scared one day those hind tendons are just going to go. I will never be able to risk really collected work with him like levade etc.

So the clues do point to nerve damage...however his tail this spring has way more tension in it even though when I pick it up it wings off to the side...like there is only nerve message (?) to one side...???

I just found a pic or Ruby's long neck...he was only 3 years old in this pic...it's exaggerated cause he's looking at something spooky:

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011, 02:05:10 PM »

Gonna try and put a pic in here... cc_confused

Here's one of Ruby's sinky pasterns as a baby...he is one day old here and he came out of that mare's belly!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2011, 02:06:20 PM »

Here we go.

Fiona Johnson 07973 431637
Or try the re hab centre Kendle [not settle]

It seems she's hard to get hold of but worth a try



I'm sorry I forgot to thank you for this info...but unfortunately I am in the USA. Rotten luck as she sounds like just what I need. If I ever visit the UK I'm going to have to bring Ruby with me... Smiley
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