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prettydaffodil
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« on: April 06, 2011, 10:20:38 PM »

Feeling disappointed by the Cadre Noir cancelling their UK tour, I've been looking at their website with a view to going on holiday to Saumur to see them at home instead.

Anyway..., in looking at their website, I've seen photos of a horse in Corbette and just wondered how the balance worked.  If you look at this photograph, you'll see that the rider is perpendicular to the horse, or in some shots is even leaning back.  That surely has to unbalance the horse, by messing around with the overall centre of gravity doesn't it?  I'm sure that what they do is right because no matter where you see it, they have the same balance but does anyone think it seems odd?

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Obviously, I shall never be in a position to be riding the Corbette, so, honestly it is totally irrelevant but I just thought it was interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 10:33:32 PM »

It does look weird in that pic but you have to remember its a dynamic balance rather than stationary.
The thrust is forward /upward which is what stops the horse from falling back I guess,if that was a rear the rider would likely pull the horse backwards but the forward thrust prevents it I would think.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 10:47:19 PM »

It does look weird. It's like the rider has changed nothing much about his position vs. when the horse is on all fours.  cc_confused cc_confused cc_confused IW's explanation does make sense, but it is still weird looking.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 10:51:24 PM »

interestingly, I've just watched a youtube of SRS footage and he was leaning forward far more, as you would when a horse rears.  See about 5.05 to 5.10 on this clip
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That makes more sense
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 10:52:54 PM »

So the French are just rubbish then? I suspected as much  devil devil laugh
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 11:15:13 PM »

Well you've given this person something to watch out for (the courbette position) when she attends her *third* SRS Performance on Saturday...
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 09:45:05 PM »

When I visited the Cadre Noir at their home in Saumur, I was pretty shocked at the very thickened and scarred legs of the 'sauteurs'. These are mostly cobby, quite hefty horses and I think are not at all cut out for this type of stress. The Lipis have very strong bone and enormously strong hind end, and do not seem to suffer the same.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 09:26:32 AM »

Sorry OT, but I was perplexed at the piaffe in the SRS video, the one at 1:37... looked like there wasn't much sit, but rather that the hind end was bobbing up and down. Far be it from me to criticise work that is well beyond my own ability  devil but it just looked odd to me, and somehow I'd expect more from a SRS performance... Any thoughts?
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 11:27:34 AM »

Interesting, I totally agree and resultingly very little lift in front making the shoulder look somewhat static.  Also agree, I am in no position whatsoever to criticise anything the SRS do but recognising correct and incorrect is all part of the learning process.
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