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« on: June 30, 2010, 09:08:11 PM » |
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Dont know if the topic is actual English..  (someone tells me a better one and I will change it..) Should rein back be always just on straight lines and few steps? What do you think of riding different school figures backwards? Why yes or why you think it should not be done? |
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 09:17:16 PM » |
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I know that my instructor does rein back on a circle with one of her horses and she finds it a really useful exercise. She tried it after reading the Philippe Karl book, who uses it. Seem to remember her saying its the humans who have more problem getting their head round it than the horses  |
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 09:38:04 PM » |
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Lippa,most folk have enough trouble having their horse lined up on a school figure going forwards  *If* the horsey was CORRECTLY ALIGNED  then I would have thought it could be useful though. |
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 09:52:10 PM » |
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I knew a certain someone who may be mentioning 'alignment ' on this thread  I think it's something that can be really helpful but very easy to get very wrong. Perfectly understandable title  |
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 09:59:18 PM » |
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I rein back on circles and other school figures....as part of suppling and straightening. I believe done correctly and sensitively it is beneficial .
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 10:06:14 PM » |
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Agreed Jenny and that's just the problem Lippa, if you understand what you're trying to achieve then it works, if you just rein back a circle to prove you can then it's no help. I use it a little with Moralejo along with backing up a hill both ridden and in-hand. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 10:07:03 PM » |
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Yes thats correct Lippa |
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 10:16:10 PM » |
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Yes what purpose would it have? collection presumeably? but why would it be better than going straight back? Dont think I shall attempt it  |
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 10:17:35 PM » |
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But for suppling and straightening there are plenty of exercises when horse goes forwards
Yes but in reinback (done correctly) the horse is surely more encouraged/complelled to keep the behind legs/haunches in play than on a forwards movement. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 10:26:06 PM » |
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In order to collect my horse i need him to lighten the shoulders , engage the quarters ...reinback is necessary as you agree. How can i keep him straight and work him evenly if he can't bend .
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 10:31:22 PM » |
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Or to put it another way...done correctly you are able to very accurately control the shoulders and the hindquarters...leading to (hopefully) an even reinback
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 10:34:01 PM » |
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I also think that it shows the possible one sideness of the horse much better than doing a volt forwards.
Yes!!! Couldn't agree more |
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 10:34:52 PM » |
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But why is it beneficial over and above doing a straight rb?  Presumeably you would want to be able to rb straight first? |
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 10:40:58 PM » |
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But why is it beneficial over and above doing a straight rb? Presumeably you would want to be able to rb straight first? but bendy stuff develops straight stuff  |
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 10:54:21 PM » |
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Only if you ees French and do everything backwards Ive done the WE stuff round poles does that count? I can barely see a volte going forwards ,think I need mirrors and traffic cones to go backwards |
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