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« on: February 04, 2009, 09:54:24 AM »

I've been feeling a bit off it lately and stuggling with my energy levels.  I know I have alot od decisions on my mind with change of work, house etc so my batteries are not charging as quic as usual.  So the other day I decided yes I needed to ride but not an overly energetic one.

So of to the school I went.  Did the usual warm up then spent the rest of the session just in walk.  I worked mainly on a circle but did some figure of eight work too.  I followed alot of what Becky had done in my lesson but also mixed it with my lessons with Joao.

Working on a circle I rode shoulder in to shoulder out on both reins.  On the left rein both were even and and flowed whereas on the right rein Caia was fallng out through her shoulder on the shoulder in and it was harder to keep her on the circle.  On the same circle I then decided to change the shoulder in to traverse to see how this would effect the falling out and immediately she came back under herself.  I swopped from traverse to SI then back a few times and this did improve her going and help reduce the falling out.  I then went onto the left rein and did the same exercise.  I then swopped to S out and renverse and she started to fal out slightly on the shoulder out.  I continued with te exercise and increased it to a figure of eight and did the same exercise on bothe reins. 

As i was doing the exercise I really thought about where my weight was and what I was telling her.  On the left rein in shoulder in my inside leg was on the girth, outside leg just behind and my weight was in my right bum cheek, my shoulders mirrored hers,  as I went to traverse I kept my legs tand upper body the same but swopped my weight into my left bum cheek and she kept the same bend and movement but moved her quarters in to traverse.  When I went onto the right rein and again thought though where I was I realised that instead of just my shoulder mirroring hers I had twisted my whole body and seat. This was then putting my weight into the wrong bum cheek and moving my legs out of position so they were not being as effective.  Once I sat square again and just twisted my shoulders from the waist she no longer fell through the shoulder.

Sorry this is probably so boring for you all but I found it so enlightening  nod and am now going to regulary revisite this work.  I am aware that my right pelvis sit lower and I need it sorting but this showed me how something relatively small in my movement had a large effect on Caias.  I do alot of walk work anyway but I need to really concentrate on what I'm doing and get it right and then trnsfer it up the gaits so I'm then confident that my seat is correct to help Caia.

Really slowing the movements down help too  This was something Becky told me as I wasn't aware you could  doh.  Funny how you presume you must always walk either collected working medium extended etc and when the movement is really slowed down you think you should be pushing on.  Since Becky said it's ok I can really disect it all better and hence discover what id happening.   hug to Becky for enlightening the numpty me  doh

Hope this is as thought provoking to you all as it was me.  thumbs
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 01:54:56 PM »

Been thinking about this since and have been questoining myself about how I do these moves.  You more experienced peeps out there am I doing this correctly and is what I discovered correct so to speak.  Please comments welcome. Thank you
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 07:31:34 PM »

just found this from your video thread (thanks for posting the linky!).
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On the left rein in shoulder in my inside leg was on the girth, outside leg just behind and my weight was in my right bum cheek, my shoulders mirrored hers,  as I went to traverse I kept my legs tand upper body the same but swopped my weight into my left bum cheek and she kept the same bend and movement but moved her quarters in to traverse.
i think this follows what i've read PK write about, weighting yourself (subtlely) in the direction of travel, no matter what the bend or movement.  it does make sense nod.  altho i've read opposing views as well wacko.  it's enough to confuse a rider!  i know that when i was teaching my Friesian lateral work at walk, i found that i twisted myself unnessarily on the left rein.  good eyes on the ground really help with this.

i too think it is amazing how much a small shift in *us* affects the horse.
i'll be interested to read other comments on this subject wink.
and let me say, i so wish i had a more advanced horse to ride to perfect MYSELF.  you are so lucky!
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 11:58:17 AM »

I love these kind of things.

But aswel as you thinking about your position remember your horse is also one sided, It sounds like from you have said that your horse is weaker on his right hind as he is escaping from using it, So doing the shoulder in travers really will help and thats why he came back under with that right hind because you corrected it! hope that makes sense.
also when on a straight line if you can feel he isnt in a certain rein you no he is escaping with that hind some how but remember to correct the shoulders to the hinds.

here is 2 good articles on this kind of stuff that i find really interesting

http://www.artisticdressage.com/articles/taleoftwo.html
http://www.barnmice.com/profiles/blogs/how-to-help-your-stiff-horse

thanks for posting that, i love rides like that when you chip away at another bit of the missing puzzle all by yourself thumbs
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 05:06:21 PM »

Thanks for the links, very interesting.  The first article and your comments would make sense as it was my right knee that was operated on and so has been my weaker leg hence I probably haven't been telling her to bring her right hind through properly. This we are woking on as I have been swimming and exercising to increase my leg strength.  I had also at one point been blocking her left shoulder so much that I had over restricted it which hadn't helped so now we seek the happy medium.  This riding lark is so hard!!   laugh
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 09:56:59 PM »

Hi Lou,

This is the secret of invisible aiding- the placement of the body and weight, the shift being imperceptible to the onlooker, who only sees the horse change the body position, not the rider! Especially if you have an ultra sensitive horse like my Sudi, and your Caia looks pretty sensitive to me too! That is the beauty of the super sensitive horse, to a rider who wants to become part  of the horse in all movements, so that horse and rider appear as one. nod

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