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« on: January 31, 2007, 02:02:55 PM »

I recently purchased a Fhoenix from a lovely lady who stored the saddle on a metal saddle stand. The prolite panels have gotten creased imprints from the metal. When I purchased the saddle, the seller commented that she'd asked around and had been assured that the creases would eventually work themselves out.

Oh, sadness that they don't seem to be returning to their normal state. I've pulled the panels from the saddle and have tried some tender loving care: I've warmed them on low with a hair dryer and gently massaged the creases to try to encourage the foam to return to its orginal shape, but the creases are still quite noticeable.

Has this happened to anyone else? I've made a mental note to be sure to always store the saddle on a pole-style rack or on top of some saddle pads... but I'm worried about using the creased panels on my horse.

Thanks so much...  
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 02:36:05 PM »

Hi Stoutsma and welcome,

Cant say we have had that problem with ours, but can see it could happen, especially if she had perhaps had another saddle on top of it.

No problem though, we can replace the panels for you!! If you wait another couple of weeks, we will have the new and better moulded ones.

Heather
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 02:43:40 PM »

Heather -

Thanks SO much! I've been lurking and researching for a while and always been impressed with your customer service.

Of course I can wait a few weeks... the weather hasn't been conducive to much more than hopping up bareback to warm up after a thorough grooming anyway. Who should I contact about a replacement?

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 05:23:09 PM »

hey Heather-

I think i am a bit confused. I have a prolite gp, and just ordered the new moulded panels- they arrived in the mail yeserday. they are more rounded shape at the back so the fhoenix won't sit flat on an A framed horse.

Are the ones you are talking about on this thread an upgrade from the ones I got?

what is the difference?

sorry dont mean to make this more confusing- just want to make sure i've got the right thing!
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2007, 09:56:45 PM »

Hi myhorsefaith

There are two types of moulded panel, the ones you have, to take up the A frame shape of a more TB type, and the moulded flat panels the same shape as the old Prolite ones, but moulded from the same material as the ones you have.

The moulded material wont mark or dent even if I leave a 750lb simulator 'parked' on it for a couple of days!

I should have asked Stoutsma, what shape her horse is, to give her the options of either, so Stoutsma, pics of your horse please!! wink

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 10:32:09 PM »

Heather -

What seemed to work best for my horse on the trial saddle that Shannon Olsen here in the States sent were the shaped moulded panels along with a perfect balance pad from fleeceworks (it's a half-pad with memory foam inserts on the front).

Long story behind the condition my horse is currently in, but the essentials are year off from injuries, pre-insulin resistant. 5 year old warmblood, still growing:





Have one more pic showing the withers/shoulders a bit closer, but thought the last might work better. Have pics of me riding in said trial saddle as well.

Thanks again!
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 06:58:31 AM »

Hi Stoutsma,

What were his injuries? There seems to be a considerable imbalance left to ride looking at him from above, and also quite a lump in the region behind the saddle. ( And if Shannon says moulded panels and half pad, this will be fine wink ).

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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2007, 01:06:52 PM »

Heather -

Oh.. the guilt! Last year I sent him out to a trainer in another state on my instructor's recommendations - she'd taken several horses there to be started and had several other friends who were thrilled with the results. I don't know if he just slipped through the cracks of their program or no one wanted to admit that they didn't have the time, but in the last few weeks before I picked him up, they apparently drilled the heck out of him in small circles and neglected to do anything with his feet after trimming him in ways that he's never stood in his life. I picked him up after they requested some more time (or me riding in a tie-down) because he was 'copping an attitude' at the canter.

He was grade 2+ (on a scale of 5) on his right hock. X-rays fortunately showed no compromise in the joint, but all joints were puffy and he was totally body-sore.  cry I picked him up in August and turned him out for the winter to recover. We started again in the spring, where he seemed to be coping: some residual weakness behind and some unevenness overall, from compensating, we assumed. Then hit the insulin resistance: fat deposits in weird places, grumpy horse, and TIGHT sore muscles in his back and hindquarters. Didn't have the vet draw blood for a definitive diagnosis as she advised trying the diet changes and seeing if those made a difference. They did: he's moving much more freely (also gave him a few more months off from work other than simple ground manners). His chiro is pleased with the progress he's made so far. Both agree that he needs corect consistent work in straight lines to start building tone in his back and rear end. Under saddle at slow speeds would be fine, especially since none of us want to put him on a lunge line: he's still a bit creaking in the joints at times.

The fact that he's so uneven and unfit led me to investigate the treeless saddles. I didn't want the trouble of having a fitter out often and perhaps waiting too long and having him suffer a poor fit.

The pointed croup is probably a lingering back or pelvic issue - he was tight enough through the back that he would 'slap' with his front legs and the chiro noticed that he was 'tucked' with his rear end .  Shocked  I don't have latest pics, but his topline is slowly starting to level out within the last few weeks. It's been truly depressing to experience and I can't believe I was so trusting with the trainer. I bred my mare to get Beorn. He's *my* baby!

I think I'm probably going to end up needing both sets of panels eventually... as well as some shims. Shannon is probably going to let me keep the shaped moulded panels from the trial saddle and order another set for herself (yay Shannon I LOVE you!), so that'd leave me with wanting the flat moulded panels and some shims, right?
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