Heavy Riders

[JulieR]

Can anyone tell me  how heavy you can be when using a fhoenix as I am worried I am too heavy! :unsure:  

[sarah-b]

Heather told me she wouln't recommend a Fheonix to anyone over 15st.

HTH    

[Endurance Nutter]

Im curious now... why?  

[carrieh]

I don't really know - but I suspect because the foam wouldn't be supportive enough for either horse or rider.

 

[sarah-b]

She said that the weight of a rider heavier than that wouldn't be distrubuted properly without a tree.

When I was looking to get a new saddle I contacted most of the treeless makers and they all said more or less the same.

[SueC]

I think the foam hasn't been tested over 15st and might get compressed beyond slow recovery to no recovery, but don't quote me, I'm only trying to help because Heather is away.  :blush:

My hubby, whose over 15st is mainly in the beer and pie dept., can sit comfortably on the SBS and it hasn't actually squished beyond repair yet, but I would imagine contours of the more Rubinesque variety might not fit.  I think fit-wise it probaby depends on weight distribution, but squish-wise I don't think it's been tested.  It probably depends a lot on the individual horse and rider and chances are 15 stone is the max erring of the safe side.

I could be wrong though and it might be best to wait for Heather, Jill or Nix to reply.    

[GeneralPouchka]

For what its worth....

Im a fatty and Ive had my SBS for about 18months now.  Ridden in it at least 4 times a week until recently with no problems to me or horse or saddle.

Ive also ridden in my friends fhoenix.

I think they are just not tested any heavier and so cant be guaranteed.

 

[Heather]

Hi all,

Just to clarify matter here, I do not put a weight limit on the saddle, per se. This is why we like to send out an agent with a saddle to try, so that can also ascertain if the rider sits well enough and is balanced.If a heavy rider sits well and interacts correctly with the movement of the horse, the saddle is no more likely to cause harm than a treed saddle, provided that the horse has a good, well muscled back.

If the horse has a weak, undermuscled topline, with a prominent spine and wither, then it should not be asked to carry a heavy rider, period, until the musculature has been developed correctly.

And by this, I do not necessarily mean overweight people!! My ex partner Remmelt, is 6'3", and weighed 15 stone at one point, although you could never have called him overweight- he is naturally very athletic and muscular, and muscle weighs more than fat! He learned to ride as a complete beginner, entirely on the Flexion SBS, and then on the Fhoenix, with never a problem.

But if the rider is unbalanced and sits like a sack of potatoes, then I would not recommend the saddle. Such a rider, overweight or otherwise, would not find the saddle comfortable if they had no wish to improve their position and balance, but thankfully they are few and far between amongst our customers.Most riders buy the saddle as much to enable them to sit correctly, and in better balance, and therefore are not a problem!!

Heather


 

[horseshoerwife]

What's 15 stone in pounds.

[paulam]

Not sure but I think..............

16 ounces in a stone, x 15 stones = 240 lbs.

I can never remember if there are 14 or 16 ounces in a lb. I think 16.

if 14 then 15 stones = 210 lbs.


 

[TashaKat]

Paula!  Trying to do maths at AHEM 4.28 am!!!  

16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone

15 stone = 210 lb

and to be really clever it's about 95.25 kg

[Claire]

Paula!  Trying to do maths at AHEM 4.28 am!!!  

16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone

15 stone = 210 lb

and to be really clever it's about 95.25 kg

i always have to think about that as well, and i was brought up on imperial measures.

1/2 lb is 8 oz ....is where i start from to remind myself ..

i still cook/measure in imperial ....  

[TashaKat]

LOL, it's ok, I was really referring the 4.28 am stint on EE not on her maths

The way that I remember it is that I work it out as 16 lbs to a stone it makes me look heavier than if there are 14 lbs to a stone!  I want to weight LIGHTER not heavier so there MUST be 14 lbs to a stone ....

I know, strange way to remember something  :lol:  

[Woody]

Ha Ha  ...   great way to remeber that!!!  

Woody

[paulam]

Paula!  Trying to do maths at AHEM 4.28 am!!!  

16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone

15 stone = 210 lb

and to be really clever it's about 95.25 kg

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

That's what I meant - ounces in a stone!!

I know, it was a god unearthly hour - couldn't sleep so where do I go........... EE of course!