Differences In The Schools

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Okay, I am going to try posting a serious topic again and hope for the best.

So I have 2 questions and didn't want to start 2 threads so they are both in here.
1) what are the differences in the schools of though in dressage, I know there is german, spanish and french am I missing any?  Also, which riders go with which school and what do you do?

2) what are the differences in the schools of though behind Lunging and Long reining.  I would buy the books and research all of this but have nowhere near enough money for that.  Amazon has some books on lunging but they all look so different, I want to find one that works for us.  Any experience with any of them?

I don't want to know which is better in long reining or dressage, or who judges what differently.  I just want to know the differences, please no flaming.  :blush:  

[shoveltrash]

there was some good discussion a while back on some of this here:

http://www.enlightenedequitation.com/membe...rench+vs+german

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Oohh! thanks, loads of info there!  So that answers the french v. german, what about the spanish school?  And do the same differences carry over into lunging and long reining?

[LambChop]

I like going for a read at this forum:

http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/vie...e0c31324c00b2e0

and a search faciltity to get stuff on French/German schools.

[beachrider]

there is also this link.

http://www.kaonsecurity.co.nz/MelodiosoBlo...l_vs_German.htm

 

[Dark Cloud]

That was an interesting and suscinct article, Ta!

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The article says,

Horses progressing through either training program will eventually get to the same point where they have achieved a high degree of collection...At this level there is less disparity between the two philosophies

So, when you get more advanced everything just meshes together?  

[Danni]

So, when you get more advanced everything just meshes together?

I think a lot of it comes down to what suits the horse, I think Heather has posted before saying that one of her horses is much happier training along the lines of the German scales, whereas the another prefers the old school Portuguese-type training (if memory serves, I'm sure Heather can offer input).

Many roads leading to Rome & such.  It's so important to treat each equine in training as an individual, some will flourish under one method whilst others require a different approach.  Doesn't make any of them wrong & I think it's important to learn as much as possible about them all in order to be effective in training horses/ponies/etc.

Don't have any clue about how they train the groundwork (long-reining & lunging) but I'm curious as to whether any German-basd training continues ground work beyond backing.  Not having a go at the German methods, I'm just ignorant as to whether it's included in the more advanced work.  As I'm sure we've all seen SRS stallions practice the airs inhand, and I think I've seen pics of Luis Valenca (sp?) demonstrating high school work under long reins?

[Melia]

Fascinating topic!

Interesting to see the two routes developed for different types of horse.

[franklin]

I have been trained by Sylvia Stanier in lungeing and longreining Danish method, she in turn was taught by Mr. E. Schmit-Jensen F.E.I a good friend of General Decarpentry.  Many people think that she and I only do these 2 things but we lunge and long rein to ride. This method is a method of training the horse so he learns the movements without the rider upsetting his natural balance, and by slowly geting the horse stronger, supple and in self carriage. The horse when asked to perform movements with the rider on board  will not have to make too many adjustments in his balance etc. Many people will not spend the time doing/learning lungeing and long reining as they seem to think that it is not very useful/interesting but the old adage make haste slowly comes to mind!. Both Sylvia and I have used this method on many horses of all breeds,shapes,age and sizes with great success surely that most prove something !. Jenny